RubaDub: "but I look around and feel a bit of guilt if I use more than one towel in the restroom."
Good one!🤣
after posting on another thread it became apparent to me that it can be difficult for some ex jws to totally shake off all wt teaching , even after leaving the org.
do you still feel guilty going into a church for a wedding or a funeral .
can you bring yourself to celebrate birthdays or christmas .
RubaDub: "but I look around and feel a bit of guilt if I use more than one towel in the restroom."
Good one!🤣
the fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.
watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!
".
20,329,317—Attendance at the annual Memorial of Christ’s death
This number includes disfellowshipped & their families, disassociated & their families, inactive & their families, return visits & their families, low-hour publishers & their families...last but not least your jarhead, staunch fully indoctrinated JW...of which there are around 4 million. 🤣
the fact that there are pomi ex-jws who have been disfellowshiped or inactive for years who still live in constant fear of armageddon indicates that watchtower will manage to exist in one way or another for years, if not decades, to come.
watchtower, like all other religious cults, operate on the premise that "you can fool some of the people all of the time...and that's enough!
".
10,079,709—Free home Bible courses conducted
This stat is excessively exaggerated & is a crock of shit! WT wants JWs to count as a study someone you call back on and have a 5 minute or less conversation (about the family dog, the weather, how many times you crap a day...etc) on the front door step.
Actual one hour home Bible studies...where a JW sits down with an outsider to discuss the Bible has got to be extremely low. Not to mention that the above number includes make-believe studies JW parents have with their children.
yesterday, i posted a question for a friend in texas as to whom he should contact to report sexual abuse from the 1960s by a jw pioneer/elder who is now deceased.
(incidentally, there are plenty of people who are still alive and in the organization who were very aware of the circumstances and who can be summoned to give testimony regarding these accusations.
) so, my friend called the zalkin law firm.
Hey, could you let us know the expressions on the faces of the WT legal dept. when you tell them this?
I would love to see Stephen Lette's already rubber-faced contorted looks take on even more deformity!🤣
i grew up as a witness, and left about 10 years ago, i'm currently researching witness numbers for a project i'm working on, and i can't seem to get an accurate number of baptised witnesses - hardly a surprise!
from their website it looks like they list the number of publishers instead of the number of baptised witnesses, so it totally works to obscure how many actual witnesses there are, apart from the fact it's morally dubious to class a publisher as a minister of god as they refer to publishers on their uk section of the site.
i also am trying to work out how many leave every year, even approximate figures would be great, from their own website it just looks like they try to massage figures to make them look as favourable as possible.
peacefulpete: The JWs are growing, don't knock yourself out because of it.
Many a JW are backsliding when it comes to meeting attendance alone. The number of those opting to stay home and call in on their phones is on the rise. And why are more & more missing meetings...cause of the sheer boredom of these midweek and weekend gatherings. So if the rank & file are showing a cooling-off trend it stands to reason that outsiders will pickup the negative vibes and not bother with the stupidity of this cult as well.
The only growth you're seeing, peacefulpete, is from babies and toddlers of JW parents.
i grew up as a witness, and left about 10 years ago, i'm currently researching witness numbers for a project i'm working on, and i can't seem to get an accurate number of baptised witnesses - hardly a surprise!
from their website it looks like they list the number of publishers instead of the number of baptised witnesses, so it totally works to obscure how many actual witnesses there are, apart from the fact it's morally dubious to class a publisher as a minister of god as they refer to publishers on their uk section of the site.
i also am trying to work out how many leave every year, even approximate figures would be great, from their own website it just looks like they try to massage figures to make them look as favourable as possible.
amandm: "I also am trying to work out how many leave every year, even approximate figures would be great,"
WT boasts having + or - 120,000 congregations worldwide. I would venture a guess that up to 5 on average per congregation fade & become seriously inactive annually! That's roughly 600,000 per year. This is the current trend. That number may seem high to some...don't forget that the number of congregation mergers & Kingdom Hall sell-off is also high and risen!
Add in the fact that there are next to zero new outside converts to replace those that are on the fade.
Bottom line...there is a sizable exodus currently taking place among the JW rank and file not to mention the large number of JWs dealing with cognitive dissonance...Yay!👍
a first time visit to a kingdom hall turned out to be a nightmare for this young lady.. .
https://www.azfamily.com/news/man-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-teen-girl-outside-glendale-church/article_2fe560c0-c36b-11e9-997b-fb25195e2ed1.html .
atlantis!
Thank you Atlantis for the link to the article!👍
a first time visit to a kingdom hall turned out to be a nightmare for this young lady.. .
https://www.azfamily.com/news/man-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-teen-girl-outside-glendale-church/article_2fe560c0-c36b-11e9-997b-fb25195e2ed1.html .
atlantis!
No problema LV101!
a first time visit to a kingdom hall turned out to be a nightmare for this young lady.. .
https://www.azfamily.com/news/man-accused-of-sexually-assaulting-teen-girl-outside-glendale-church/article_2fe560c0-c36b-11e9-997b-fb25195e2ed1.html .
atlantis!
First visit to the Kingdom Hall and a young girl gets sexually assaulted...no doubt by a predator who regularly attended the congregation.
Man...you can't make this stuff up!
with 10 being the highest, how..... 1.honest are you.
2.humble are you.
4. happy are you.
1. I'm a 5 when it comes to honesty...I really don't mind being dishonest...falls under the category of Theocratic Warfare which I've learned from leadership of WT.
2. When it comes to humble...I'm a 5. Again I've learned from the leadership of JWs of how to be an arrogant asshole when I want to be!
3. I'm a 10 when it comes to being optimistic. I'm very optimistic that WT has some very dark days ahead!
4. I'm a 10 when it comes to being happy. I'm extremely happy being in my PIMO state of mind...I'll be even happier once I'm totally out of this cult!